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Readers
Forum I have posted all of the comments I have received so far, including rude ones and I always reply to you personally. If you have sent me something and not had a reply, then I must have missed it, so please send it again. (Incidentally, andrew@thaigirl2004.com is a nightmare as I get about forty spam messages a day.) If you scroll down, you’ll find comments on MY THAI GIRL AND I,
the story of my five years in Thailand with Cat, and then about my earlier
novel, THAI GIRL further down. Recent messages about "My Thai Girl and I" and "Thai Girl" Sent to: arhicks56@hotmail.com
Hi Andrew, A quick email to say that I’ve just finished MY THAI GIRL AND I, and I really enjoyed it. I have read other books about ex-pats in Thailand My wife and I left our village after four years because of work, and
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Dear Andrew, Firstly congratulations on writing yet another fantastic book. I first
I loved the book (MY THAI GIRL AND I). I was really engrossed in the book. It was so very real. At times I
could almost hear the locals talking about us, safe in the knowledge
that we do not understand them. Sue R.
Hello Andrew, I have read your book 'MY THAI GIRL AND I' and I must say I love it. Just finished a house for the Thai family upcountry and hope in a few Again congratulation's on your good book and to find your way of
Hello Andrew, I was recently in Bangkok to see my Thai girlfriend, Cat. We are about I really enjoyed it, thank you for being so open. I no longer feel so
alone when I have those frustrating moments with Cat, who I have to say
is a very talented hardworking lady who has just completed her second
masters degree whilst working in a pressure job full time. I Thanks again and I wish you all the best for the future with your Cat. Regards Bruce
Dear Mr Hicks, I can confirm that one now well-read copy of 'MY THAI GIRL AND I' has indeed washed up on the shores of the treasured islands of Samoa. The book was passed to me by a long-term expat living here. He purchased it on a short visit to Thailand in April in preparation for a permanent relocation from Samoa to Thailand. The expat is married to an Isaan girl and so regarded the book as essential reading. A text book nonetheless!! He handed it over to me eventually because I too am married to an Isaan girl. Yours sincerely, Michael D.
Howdy Andrew, I have just finished reading "MY THAI GIRL AND I". A great
read. I have just returned from a I have stayed in a village in Nong Khai between So Pisai and Fao Lai
and there are so many similarities between life in this village and your
village life. From signing up new monks My wife is due back to Aust in 6 weeks and I have ordered a copy of "THAI GIRL". Thanks for a look into your life. it was a great read and an interesting
comparison to life in Thailand as I know it. Thank-you and please keep
writing.
Hi Andrew I bought MY THAI GIRL AND I back in May and really enjoyed it. I read it twice, so I really got my monies worth. The song you quoted at the beginning of the book was Donovan and not Dylan ,but I suppose you have been told that by now. Good luck with your life in Thailand. Regards Sean. ps I enjoy your blog, www.thaigirl2004.blogspot.com nearly as much as the book.
Hi Andrew. I too hope that Ben and Yut make [a life for themselves with their new shop in your village which you’ve just told us about on www.thaigirl2004.blogspot.com]. After reading "MY THAI GIRL AND I" I have found myself really caring about what happens to people in the book who I have never met and am never likely to. That’s maybe why I enjoyed it more than "Thai Girl". Because it’s about real people. All the best.
Hi It’s a shared experience for me, especially as I have just finished
building a house in Sakon Nakhon. Therefore you are more than welcome
to stay if you need a proper bed for the night, a hot shower and a full
English breakfast. However one of the pitfalls may be, understanding
a Yorkshire Thai accent but what the hell! Thanks again for a few pleasant hours of reading. Mal and Um
Hello Mr. Hicks, I came across MY THAI GIRL AND I a couple of weeks ago at the local
bookstore. As I was picking it up to read the back cover, my wife said "you
no waste your money on this book. You no like this kind of book" She
is right in a way. I usually stay away from "expat" books finding
them to be inaccurate, culturally limiting and often times extremely
stereotypical, especially the gross inaccuracies surrounding Thai women,
culture, and customs so I tend to stay clear of books in this "genre". "MY THAI GIRL AND I" is probably the best book I have ever
read, not just about Issan but Thailand in general. You never sound like
an "authority" or egotistical. You wrote a book that was thought
provoking, sincere, and objective. Warmest regards,
Hi Andrew, Just a quick note to say I enjoyed "MY THAI GIRL AND I" immensely. Overall it has a very positive feel and I laughed out loud in many places. I don't have the time to read a book from cover to cover in one go any more so I found the layout of short self-contained stories very convenient when I only had an hour or so. I started the book in Wichianburi hospital waiting for Mike to be born. Needless to say none of it registered, so I started again from the beginning when I returned to England. I have a terrible memory, which I put down to being thrown off a horse when I was 13. Reading your stories reminded me of so many things that have happened to Kai and I. So many experiences that are "same same, but different." If you get bored now you have finished the book, why not translate it into Thai? Then Kai can read it rather than me summarising chunks for her (joking). Although I am learning to go with the flow and not get wound up about things, one was absolutely set in stone, building our house. It was all so simple. Until I retire in January and commute some of my pension, I have no money. Therefore no house until next year. The plan was fool proof. Retire, build house, downsize house in England to small terrace, replace money in bank as a safety net for things like unforseen medical expenses. I could also keep a very inexpert eye on the builders, whilst living with the in-laws. I had been on at Kai a bit saying we should at least start looking for a builder. A couple of weeks ago,two days before we returned to England, a builder from Bangkok turned up with Wattana, his local site manager (I think). I still had a bit of a fever and things were going over my head. We already had a good idea of the floor plan from a book I bought months ago. The builder had the same book so this was quickly decided. I couldn't understand why we needed to choose the colour of the roof tiles at this early stage, but did so anyway. Then the local headman came round and after studying a calendar decided that 10th August 2008 was the luckiest day of the year to raise the first post. The old people (i.e. about my age) all looked at the calendar and agreed. Even Kai, the only person who knows the state of my finances, sided with the opposition. Anyway I only had to pay 500,000 to start, a further 500,000 in a couple of months and the balance in January. What rich farang doesn't keep that sort of loose change in his back pocket? Just to rub it in, the 2009 calendar was checked. January was a complete no no. We could start building in February, but the first lucky day to move in would not be until September. Eight months of living with the in-laws and eating the worst Issan food this side of Issan. So in two days it was done and dusted. We visited a couple of farang houses Wattana had already built and which were to a perfectly good standard, agreed the floor plan, fittings and electrics and Kai signed the contract. A phone call to my bank and the first 500,000 baht was winging it's way to Wattana's acount. I have decided not to open my bank statements for the next few months. Finally, the American just got lucky. Most of Phetchabun is flat, but you can see the hills and it is certainly a bit cooler than the north east. All the best. Mick
I finished “MY THAI GIRL AND I” last week and found it a very enjoyable read. While there’s nothing in Andrew’s tone to suggest he’s preaching his point of view, I found there was a lot of wisdom in the book to be applied to making a life, my life, in Thailand. The book is in a lot of respects a collection of essays that go roughly chronologically over a period of a few years. From meeting his future wife, to the first village visits, to moving there and building a house. Like many of us, he’s at an age where the days past are less than those ahead and he takes thoughtful stock of the implications in making his life in Issan. Recently I bought a house, (or more correctly I should say I bought my Thai wife a house), that needs a fair amount of remodeling. It’s so easy to get frustrated with the standards, the approach, the family and friends who come to help out, my Thai wife’s concept of things – you name it and it’s possible to go stark raving mad. The book was a good companion as I shared Andrew’s tribulations and how he comes around to the important lessons to be learned in adapting and accepting, of knowing when to stand your ground and when to let it slide a bit and perhaps most importantly to know when you’ve’ been beat fair and square by your Thai partner’s unassailable logic and big smile and thus to beat a strategic retreat while you still have a modicum of honor. I could laugh and cry with him as I experience similar adventures. I consider this book worthwhile, if not required, reading for any farang dreaming of moving out to the village or to Thailand with his Thai partner and especially if building a house. If you’ve done it I’m sure you’ll be like me thinking “yes, yes it was exactly like that!”. Andrew speaks with heartfelt honestly about his frustrations in the village, with his family, getting things done, isolation, language, retirement – the whole kaleidoscope of life. All things that we expats wail about he expresses with a realistic view on the way things are and a wise outlook that it is after all a different culture he’s stepped into. He shares a very personal inner perspective on the journey of life and why he is there – that place, people and time for this juncture of his life. Check it out, I think you’ll enjoy it. Valjean on www.thaivisa.com
I have also read "MY THAI GIRL AND I", and would thoroughly recommend it to anyone living in Thailand or considering doing so - as Valjean says, it falls into the "required reading" category. Those of us who have already had some of the experiences described in Hicks' book, will smile and perhaps feel comforted that they are not alone. He writes about some of the difficulties and frustrations we all encounter, but with empathy and humour, with the result that the book does not descend into a gripe. Those who have not yet made the move, will perhaps learn something about what to anticipate. I had read and enjoyed Hicks' novel, "THAI GIRL", which was why I bought the latest, autobiographical, work, as soon as it appeared on the shelves. I have no interest in books which simply criticise Thailand and Thai people; those attitudes are far too frequently encountered everywhere. But from his novel I was sure that the new book would have a more positive outlook - and although he does not shy away from describing his negative experiences, the author compensates with his humour, candidly admitting defeat on more than one occasion. My summary is: "great book, read it". Cheers, Phibunmike on www.thaivisa.com
As I also live in an isolated Isaan village there were many things in Andrew Hick's book "MY THAI GIRL AND I" that I could easily relate to from my experiences - some of his reactions to various situations may have been completely different to mine but in being able to see myself in many of his experiences provided me with many moments of appreciation and enjoyment. The day to day challenges, frustrations and fun of living here are never ending and so I envy the fact that someone has the capacity to capture some of these experiences. As the book is non-fiction and a great attempt to share a farang's experiences of village life in the North-East of Thailand, I believe many people like me will appreciate and enjoy sharing his experiences. Pab on www.thaivisa.com
Just finished "MY THAI GIRL AND I" and I thought that it was a great read. Much better than most books I have read on "expat life", so kudos to Mr. Hicks. I would even go so far as to say that it is the best book that I have read in this category, unlike "Confessions of a Bangkok PI." which is probably the worst piece of trash ever printed (in my opinion). And who was responsible for that book coming to print? Hmm. Oh yes, Stephen Leather. Mitzi on www.thaivisa.com
Hi Andrew
I've been a magazine writer and editor for the best part of twelve years and if I've learned anything it's that technically brilliant writing does not necessarily translate into compelling storytelling. Exceptional writers like John Burdett, who excel at both are just that: exceptional. I read THAI GIRL off the back of a Haruki Murakami book and, perhaps inevitably after this, found the writing so pedestrian I was tempted to stop reading it immediately. However, I was quickly drawn into the story and this is where the author's talent really lies: he has a natural gift for narrative. No matter that there's no strong plot; the dialogue, at times, is verging on the ludicrous. (Andrew, I don't know where you did your research on 'yoof-speak' but it's pretty wide of the mark) and the characters mostly flat and in danger of degenerating into unsympathetic caricatures (although, in fairness, this is probably a more a consequence of the nature of the characters more than any defect in the ability of the writer). Despite these weaknesses, Hicks' raw talent for storytelling keeps the reader turning the pages and this is the prime directive in any kind of writing. The real heart and soul of this book lies in the character of Fon (the 'Thai girl'). Beautifully observed and drawn, a striking metaphor for Thai culture itself, it is through her that Hicks adeptly explores the central theme of most books of this genre: the difficulty, frustration, pain and, perhaps ultimately, the futility of the foreigner trying to come to terms with the mercurial nature of Thailand. It is to his credit - and I believe displays and reflects the respect he has for this country - that he chose not to use the hackneyed milieu of the Bangkok bar scene as a vehicle to achieve this. One thing I particularly enjoyed (and Andrew, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure parody wasn't actually your intention and I hope you don't take this the wrong way) was the 'travellers' in this book came off as what I've always believed them to be - witless cretins. Their asinine discussion of world politics and their eagerness to spew forth ill-informed gibberish on any subject I found hilariously accurate, as I'm sure would anyone with half a brain who's spent more than five seconds on Khao San Road or any of the islands. I also applaud your bravery in how you handled the ending of the story (although I'm not sure how this will affect your film rights - it's not very 'Hollywood' is it?), but, as I believe you have mentioned somewhere in this thread, to soft-soap the end the the story would have been a cop-out and negated the main point of the book. Anyway Andrew, if you happen to read this, well done for getting Thai Girl published. It's a good book and I'd recommend it to anyone. I'll certainly look out for your new book, MY THAI GIRL AND I. mkasok on www.thaivisa.com
I reply gratefully to all your comment, however received and I wrote a long and grateful one to mkasok for his about THAI GIRL. I was a bit defensive about the ‘yoof speak’ but said I’d worked pretty hard at getting this right, getting my son, Mike to read the draft novel and red pencil some of the lingo he thought wasn’t current. As a university lecturer in UK, I thought I was pretty much up to speed on yoof speak… i even went to Australia to research Strine and met many young American travelers. “Hey dude, that may sound hackneyed but it’s still cool, man!’ would you believe it! And yes, I guess I was sending up the travelers a bit. They think they’re so cool and experienced, but infuriatingly they don’t have nearly as many wrinkles as me. Thanks for all your nice comments, and incidentally I’ve signed an option agreement with a small film company in LA for THAI GIRL. I particularly like them because they think the ending is absolutely right for the story and want to keep it that way for the movie. If it ever gets shot, that is!
Dear Andrew,
Even though I have not finished reading it (couldn't find that much
time since im working) I know it will be worth reading it and I am just
so excited to post you a note after viewing your I love Thailand through my reading and planning to go there one day.
Go on and write more books.
Andrew,
Dear Andrew: I just finished reading your book "Thai Girl." I pretty much
read it I spend every summer in Southeast or East Asia. Been
to Thailand many And, most importantly, yours is an honest account and
characterization If you don't mind a plea from a stranger: there can NOT
be a sequel to this book, at
least not one with a happy ending. The end to your book is truly Regards, Ken Kim.
Hi Andrew,
I have to say, I have never been so excited whilst reading a novel
as I was I was hooked reading it. i could hardly wait to know what would become of Ben and Fon. I was finding it frustrating everytime Ben and Fon would get close, only to have something happen to divide them again. The ending was also something that caused me to have
great mixed emotions. I was
disapointed with the ending at first. I think I was expecting some sort
of fairytale
ending between Ben and Fon. After having a bit of time afterwards to think
about the
book, i realised that the ending was actually the best way for this story
to end. I read some of the readers comments in the forum set up on the website. I must say I would like it so much to be able to have an open forum where we could all discuss the book with each other. There were quite a few comments that I would like to be able to discuss openly. I have visited a few countries in South East Asia and
I think your book is so spot I too feel like Ben, in the way he felt about his relationship
with Fon. I felt it Anyway i didn't really want to tell you my story as you
must hear quite a few stories I hope a scriptwriter picks up on your book and decides to make a screenplay from it. I really could see a movie made of this story and think maybe it would be a hit with some sort of cult following. I will again read this book soon as I would like to see if there was anything I didn't pick up on the first time. Thank you Andrew for this inspiring novel which has touched me so and will remain proudly on my bookshelf until the day I die. Best wishes, Benjamin. Australia.
Hi Andrew Just got back to my home country (Denmark) after 2 months
journey in Your book taught me a lot about Thailand and Thai culture,
it also helped me I borrowed the book from my friend, before we left for
Koh Samet, where I Although a few of the conversations seemed a bit unrealistic
to me, I think The next time I go to Thailand, which might be more or
less permanently, I All the best to you! Greetings
Dear Andrew I found that your novel captured the complexities of the Thai-Farang relationships very well. I originally avoided Thai Girl because I thought it was just another book about prostitutes, but it presented both sides with more depth than other books in the genre. It was a wise move to cast the main female character as a low-educated massage therapist, rather than some conniving stereotype. You also tapped into the one element that is usually forgotten - the consequence and aftermath of the farang going back home. Most books about Thai-farang relationships fail to acknowlege the impact of the visiting tourist. Also, thank you for leaving some parts ambiguous. It was a treat to not have it all spelled out in advance. While reading Thai Girl , you kept me wondering if the female character had hidden ulterior motives and if the male character was being sincere or naive. It made the ride of reading go much more smoothly when I didn't know where the path would lead. Ken
Dear Andrew, I really enjoyed your book. Are you in the process of writing another one? Steve.
Dear Steve, Thanks a million. It's funny how good it feels that somebody likes my book! In fact I'm writing a book that I hope to call, 'My Thai and I', my Thai of course being my wife. It's about living out here in the back of beyond in the NE of Thailand and I've put some experimental pieces on www.thaigirl2004.blogspot.com. I'd love you to have a look at the blog which has gone down pretty well as the top hitting Thai-based blog listed on www.thailandvoice.com. The instant satisfaction of seeing one's blog and photos appear on the screen is amazing even if in fact nobody reads it at all. All the best and please pass on the word about 'Thai Girl', Andrew
Hi Andrew, Hoping to meet you one day. Jane
It's great to hear that you enjoyed "Thai Girl'. Most of the readers who write to me seem to be men who find that the story reflects their own experiences, but as a strong theme of the book is what it's like to be a woman in Thailand, I hope there's something in it for everyone. Of course authors always get asked if their story is autobiographical and they generally deny it! But no, in fact I met my Thai wife just at the time I was finishing the final draft of the book so it's not our story at all. If a story of love and longing and loss is to be convincing, then it must to an extent be autobiographical for the author to have experienced these emotions. However, in my case the story of Ben and Fon is not specifically my story, though of course I cannot deny falling in love with and in Thailand. Most of the characters in the book including Fon are based on real people I've met there and whose essence I distilled into my notebooks, but with regard to the prototype for Fon, Ben's experiences were ones that might have happened to me but never in fact did. Some of my readers credit me with special insight into relationships between farang and Thais but really I deny any such as my experience is quite limited. The story of Ben and Fon, is simply the natural playfulness of a Thai woman, tempered by her suspicion of foreign men interacting with Ben's hormonal passion for an exotic and utterly beguiling woman. She's always saying come hither but she doesn't always mean it, nor even herself know if she means it. For the farang male, that's what makes a cross-cultural relationship so utterly, so intolerably exciting. Do pass on the book to your friends, and hoping to see you in Thailand again. Andrew
Dear Mr.Hicks I just finished reading your book "Thai Girl" and having a
Thai daughter in law myself I could very well relate and identify with
your well expressed content of that mysterious culture.
I have visited Bangkok a few times with my son, but unlike Ben I was
surrounded with Thais and not farangs. On my next visit I intend to acquaint
myself
with the many farangs, yes, of all shapes and sizes that abound in this
phenomenal city.
You've hit on some interesting points and maybe you're right... maybe too it betrays my age! In fact I did work quite hard on the colloquialisms as a friend suggested to me that with so many characters taking part in some fairly static in-bar dialogues, it was important to create a distinctive voice for each of them. Some of the walk-on parts are not too significant and if as a result they took on an element of caricature, I wasn't too worried. Fon was the key of course and I studied the argot of migrant workers who'd learned their English from tourists with alacrity. In fact much of her language usage is based on the construction of how she would say the same thing in Thai. Stuart, the Scot was easy, as was Clarissa, the knobby Brit. For Maca, I traveled throughout Australia listening hard and adding to the dictionary of Strine that I bought there. I made a list of expressions that I liked and ticked them off as Maca uttered them so that he didn't over-use any. I've met quite a few traveler and other Aussies who, in the presence of non-Aussies tend to assume a faux 'Crocodile Dundee' persona and take the piss, especially of a middle class pommie bastard like Ben. I must've been called a pommie a million times! Jack Russell, the thinking man's sex tourist from Yorkshire had some language put in his mouth from a Yorkshire dialect I found on the web. Which I suppose leaves the problem of Chuck, Emma and Ben! As for Chuck, I've been amazed with younger Americans I've met, just how archaic their slang can be. I think of a lad I found myself walking with in the mountains of Cameron Highlands in Malaysia shortly before I wrote the book. It's bad news for you, Mary, but yes, everything was cool, chilled out and like crazy man. I kinda got a feelin' I was in some sorta time warp. He was twenty two! My recent experience of young Brits is of my own kids who are contemporaries of Emma and Ben and of ten years lecturing to that age group at the green welly University of Exeter in the west of England. I've listened pretty hard and taken notes, and again you'd be amazed how reactionary their colloquialisms were. If 'brill' might be a bit naff, 'brilliant' was still current. I asked my son Mike to read a draft of the book with the dialogue particularly in mind and he did excise a few 'isms that were too dated, and he had a good laugh at my expense. But the ones you mention slipped past him. What you say is probably right and I may have over-used my dialect palette, though I did want Ben to be a distinctly upper middle class lad from a slightly plummy background of private school privilege, precisely the sort Maca might take the piss of as a bloody pom. Emma's language is, I hope a bit more grounded in the present, with some of it pretty blunt and down to earth. I believe, from memory that a prat is a pregnant fish. Well, thanks again and do get in touch when next in Thailand. It would be good if our paths could cross. I hope your son has read 'Thai Girl' and do pass it on to your friends, even if at risk of polluting their minds with some frightfully outdated colloquialisms! Andrew
Hi Andrew, I have recently finished your fantastic novel Thai Girl.
I found so many things in your book that struck home to own personal involvement
with Thailand and Thai people. My current situation is that I have a Thai
Girlfriend who I have known now for 2 years.
Hi Andrew I found the character of Ben to be idealistic, hypocritical and perhaps for me, unbelievable. I have never met a young man who talks of love to a ladyman while in Thailand. Ben was too romantic in the book and this made it too unbelievable for me. His relationship with Fon was repetitive and at one point I put the book down as I was feeling so uninterested in their repetitive relationship. Luckily I picked it back up to be rewarded with wonderful pages of the politics of Bush, war and globalisation which were so wonderful and found that the book was only saved by those few pages. The conversations between the travelers was the highlights to the book. I purchased the book on leaving Singapore after a couple
of weeks in I am sorry to say this, but I believe that you show in
the conversation As I say, it is only my opinion and this is only my perspective and I wanted to take up the offer of emailing you with some of my views. Cheers,
Oh well, you can't please all of the people all of the time and I'm very happy that you've said some very nice things about parts of the book, at least. And I am being totally honest when I say how much I appreciate your feedback as I find it very interesting to learn different peoples' response to the story. Your message also helps save the Readers Forum from becoming repetitive and boring because it says the diametric opposite of most previous ones. I'm particularly glad you liked the travelers' alcohol-inspired 'political' dialogues in the book as there have been several critics (all of them American)who've said this is the weakest part of the book. Personally I'm very picky about the novels I read and frankly I enjoy relatively few of them. For example I found 'The Da Vinci Code' quite ridiculous, though the religious themes were fascinating. Certainly a novel sometimes can be redeemed by politics or religion though in my opinion, very rarely by sex. Okay, so you didn't believe in hypocritical Ben as he was far too romantic, though other readers do seem to get very involved with his passion for Fon. One tough Aussie told me how he was reading the book at work and had to go outside so his staff couldn't see how much it was affecting him! So you've never personally come across the soft, feminine side that causes us men sometimes to make such fools of ourselves?! I respect what you say, but I don't think Ben's obsessive love for Fon is so atypical for an inexperienced young lad; though Clarissa, the posh English lawyer simply puts it down to lust! He is simply following our western traditions of courtship, wallowing in love and sighing from afar for his lady, something that the Thais never begin to understand. He wants Fon to love him in the purest way possible too, though if Jack Russell is right, she'll be more interested in his wallet and on that score he doesn't do too well at all. Fon always tells Ben that passionate love is dangerous, but perhaps in the end she loses control of her emotions and suffers as a result. Western men can certainly be bewitched by Asian women and sometimes, despite an apparently unlimited choice, they are romantic enough to fall for one woman and to want that one only. If you need any evidence just how romantic men can be, you have to look no further than the story of Robin in the previous Message 48 on this Forum. Finally, no, I'm sorry I haven't written anything political, though how about corporate law? If that tickles your fancy, why not Google 'hicks and goo company law'. It'll be great for insomnia and it's got absolutely nothing in it about romantic men, though even we lawyers can be romantic sometimes! With my best wishes and thanks, Andrew
Hi Andrew I have just this minute finished the book and i had to write an email just simply as this book was amazing and a subject so close to my heart. I am currently in Thailand and in fact living with my girlfriend who was and is a bar girl. Our story was very much similar to Ben and Fon's and for me being only 21, the difficulties of a young relationship over here are very hard. The difference obviously being that mygirlfriend was not shall we say as lucky as Fon and did not find an alternative to working in a bar. But she is a happy girl from Isaan, always looking to provide for her Mother. I thought you captured stereotypes brilliantly in the main characters, while making Fon respectable yet very poor. This i would say is a rareity over here because many girls have no choice but to work in a bar. However i don't quite think the book captured their view on sex and the sex trade. For instance it is accepted by almost every girl's father over here, and in fact encouraged that she works in a bar. Sex is very liberal. They separate themselves from sex with a customer and very often act as though it doesn't happen and have regular boyfriends. My girl does not go with customers, though she has before and it is part of life i have to accept. I liked the way Ben was a typical western male; in a
way i found him similar to myself. I Ben kept himself very well throughout the book getting drunk to forget and making new friends. And also Emma, a very typical modern western woman, demanding and not easy to read. I longed for a happy ending and really expected this book to end differently. I guess i hoped it would. I mean i remember very well when i met my girlfriend, i was staying for two weeks and after i left i did not know what to expect. I returned home to my job and home. I thought she would do the same and forget about me. I got home and called her everyday, missed her with such great pain it was unbelievable. So i quit my job and came back to Thailand. I get by and go home every now and then, but i would do anything for this girl as love has conquered me. I had a good job and life, but love is more important to me then all that. As yet she cannot come to England and until then i come and see her. I just guess what i am saying is that i expected Ben to do something similar. Although tied down, i expected him to come home and feel the same pain i did and have to come back! I suppose i was hoping the story would end that way. It was a great novel and as i say a story very close
to my heart.There were parts i would say were slightly off, but this book
is so close to what i have lived, there are going to be differences. I
think there was a slight lack of emphasis on how a farang is seen in Buriram. Finally one thing i think that was majorly under-exaggerated
was money. Thai people expect farang to pay for things not through rudeness
but through culture. Farang are rich and we can go on holiday and not
work, but Thai people do not. If you eat with Thai people generally as
a farang you pay. When you go to meet the family you pay! I think there
was a slight lack of emphasis on this part. I am sorry Andrew i have read
back and it seems, taken a brilliant book and critiscised it. That is
not what i am doing at all; i am just I hope there may be a second installment to find out what happens if anything between Ben and Fon, as the fairytale could be complete if they can wait for each other. And anything is possible if you are willing to make it happen! Thanks again for the book. Many kind regards and Good Luck for the future. Robin T.
Dear Robin, Thanks so much for you message with your compliments which mean a lot to me and for your heartfelt story. You say you hoped for and expected a different ending to the book but as far as the story goes, it is exactly the same as yours. What has to happen at the end of the holiday, but you get on the plane and go back home! Ben tells Fon what you have just said to me, that you can make anything happen in life if you want to; maybe he will be as determined as you in this, but maybe not. As Emma coldly predicted, perhaps it was always likely that his family would find him a cosy career and that he has now reverted to type as a conventional middle-class guy. Of course it's he who has all the opportunities in life, while poignantly Fon is left on the beach working from day to day, waiting for a letter and hoping that her worst fears have not materialised. Yes, Ben is devastated at leaving her, but as the theme
of the story is perhaps of hopeless love, longing, separation and loss,
it would have been a sell-out if I'd let them sail off into the sunset
together. But it's never over till it's over and who knows what will Yes, it's, true Thai/Lao culture has a long tradition of taking a minor wife, even one taken for only an hour or two. You call the bar scene 'disgusting and vile', so can the girls really be totally immune to all of that? Certainly some parents now hope for girl children as
they are more dutiful and make better money than men, who are often drunks
and wasters. They may also sell their daughters or connive at their new
life, if the money keeps flowing back to them. But sometimes if it is There is a genuine modesty among Thai women and who knows what it takes to display yourself naked every night and to be available to every grotesque old bloke without the option to say no. You will never hear anything of this though, because it is not the Thai way to talk about it; the trauma will simply be smoothed over. You may thus get the impression that offering sex for sale is not a big deal. (Though see one of the earlier messages on this Forum where a Thai talks of the long-term trauma of being a bar girl.) Finally, Ben does attract a lot of attention when they go to the village, such as on the local bus, the inevitable implication always being drawn by the Thais. And yes, the money thing is not made a lot of in the book, but Ben always pays for everything, doesn't he, and Fon and Jinda do quite nicely out of him with a free trip home to see Mama, all expenses paid. So to finish, follow your dream, mate and good luck to you. It'll always be one of the greatest experiences of your life. It's extraordinary the fascination we and the Thais seem to have for each other. Anyway, tell everyone about "Thai Girl" and do keep in touch. You wanted to know how my story ends and I want to know about yours! Andrew PS. Your email to me had no subject and I nearly deleted it with the thirty or so spams I get every day. Do make sure and mark it Thai Girl if you write again.
Dear Andrew, I've just completed your novel: Thai Girl. Very poignant, emotional and a great read. It's a very touching story. Not what I was expecting at all (after reading Bangkok 8 and Tattoo by Burdett). While I was reading your book, I imagined that the smart, scheming Fon was stringing along love-struck, naive Ben. But in the end, well, he turned out to be a flakey young farang. I thought the story was a well-weaved misdirect and,at the same time, very symbolic of what could happen to thailand's tourism industry when Burma becomes the next 'in' tourist destination, as mentioned by one of your book's characters. Thai Girl would make a great movie. I hope someone has been smart enough to snap up the film rights. I laughed outloud at Odin's comment about David slaying Goliath with his g-string. Good luck with all your future creative ventures. Cheers, Peter
Dear Peter, Thanks so much for your message with your very kind thoughts about "Thai Girl". You say the book wasn't what you were expecting and I wonder which publisher's version you read. The book cover as sold in Thailand is rather more lurid than the one published in Singapore (see www.thaigirl2004.com) and they might raise different expectations. I wonder which one represents the book better and would love to know what readers think. And yes, a movie! Of course I agree with you, it could be a great movie, though the ending is hardly classic Hollywood. Did you ever see 'Hideous Kinky', a delightful low budget
film with Kate Winslett. In the spirit of the sixties she bums off to
Morocco with her two little girls and has an affair with a Moroccan boy.
It's never likely to come to anything and at the end she just has to
leave
him and go home. A Romeo and Juliet theme where two totally different
people are hopelessly drawn to each other and then torn apart can be
very
moving. Some people think the ending of "Thai Girl" is a bit
of an anti-climax while others say that the emotional climax is when
Ben
leaves Fon on the island which tugs at their heart strings. As in Well, thanks again and do tell your friends about "Thai Girl". > Andrew
Dear Khun Andrew, I am Jann, a 18 year-old Dentistry student at Khon Kaen University, Thailand. I bought your novel a year ago or so when I was in secondary school, by chance of stumbling into it in a book shop in Don Muang airport. The reasons to buy the novel were so simple: its cover and of course it's about a 'Thai girl'..which I thought might have something to do with my surroundings and me' Because of my Admission exam and geting into university, I had to put your novel down and turned to my textbooks..... I have just finished reading your novel by now and like other readers said--It's brilliant! However, it seems to me that the novel doesn't cover all the characteritics of "a Thai Girl" that appears as its title ....obviously the novel mentions about Isaan girls mainly. And I understand why that is. Isaan is a so called poorest part of Thailand, but the richest part in humor and smiles. If you had noticed, most of Thai comedians are from Isaan. Most of us have hard lives....so it's kind of a smile to hide the pain. We have to be happy and learn to be satisfied with all the things we have, and live our lives peacfully. However as the capitalised economy comes closer and closer
and now totally surrounds us, we cannot possibly stay cool and live easy
like a 'slowly blowing wind'. Captivated by the colour of the modern cities
and technologies, money is a big deal to everyone. You could die poor
by starvation if you're not energetic and get used to doing things fast
and pulling tricks to make money like people in the city. But how could
uneducated people in Isaan do something like that. They fall behind, don't
know much about new technologies and what's going on in this world, except
worrying about 'will there be enough Your novel is almost true about Isaan girls, but not
always. The discussions among Farangs in your novel about Thailand and It's nice though to hear some bad view of Farangs toward us...If you have this novel in Thai edition, it would be really nice for us to understand Farangs and of course, to know where we stand in what way --negative or positive in Farang's opinions. Again, the novel is great.... However, it would make me cry a river if Fon had got a sad ending. Her life is hard and misery enough. If you are planning to write part 2 of the novel, please dont let Ben break her heart, please! Keep on an with an excellent job! Jann.
Dear Khun Jann, Thanks so much for your lovely message. I am always especially thrilled to receive a message from a Thai person as I have little idea how many Thais read the book and what they think of it. Yes, I'd really like to see it published in Thai because I hope that Thai readers would enjoy it as much as foreigners seem to have. I am fascinated by your description of being young and
Thai and how life can be tough in this country. As you say, things are
changing so fast here and the rural people lose out all the time. Do you
remember Ben and his friends talking about how Thailand is rushing too
fast into a consumer society and losing some of its cultural values? And
remember him standing Yes, the people of Isaan represent a triumph of the human spirit, but I do hope that when they take the role of comedian, Thailand is laughing with them and not laughing at them for being 'Lao'. Do some of the farang in the book have a low view of Thai women? Surely not! I thought they all loved the Thai people as a whole. As Maca said,he chooses to be in Thailand for the Thai people and their gentleness. Okay, at the end Emma and Ben say how sad it is that Thai women have the reputation world-wide of being available to any man who will pay them, but this is a stereotype that has arisen from the huge scale of 'adult entertainment'in Thailand. In contrast, of course, the "Thai Girl" story portrays Thais in a good light and is a about a young woman who is the opposite of that stereotype, professing traditional values that are still surprisingly strong today throughout the country. And finally, you'll cry a river if I break Fon's heart in Thai Girl-2! I'm so pleased that you care! But at the end of the book, Ben is in London about to start a two year internship as a lawyer while Fon is still on Koh Samet waiting and wondering. Maybe her heart's been broken already! Do please pass on the book to your friends and I'd love to hear from them too. With best wishes to you for your studies. I hope it all goes well for you. Andrew
Hi,
* The bad: I was * The ugly: Emma. Need I say more? I often think Western women want to know what men can
do for them, and Thai women want to know what they can do for men. I mean
this in a broad sense, to make a man comfortable with clean clothes, food,
happiness, and yes, sex. Whereas western women want to know I read some where, western women want to be like men,
and Thai women want to be like Kop khun khup, David
Dear David, All the best,
Dear Andrew, Just a short one
to say how wonderful your book was. Unputdownable as we Brits say. My
wife is a teacher in Udonthani and I love the way you portrayed Thailand
in such a beautifully balanced way. I am a physiotherapist in Norfolk
and I get very angry (so does Ona my wife) when young men come for
treatment
and inform me that they are going to Thailand for a holiday because ALL
Thai women are "loose". You have done a geat deal in your
book to dispel that ridiculous myth. Thank you for a wonderful, and
beautifully
balanced book about Thailand and Thai culture!! Roll on the next one!!
Hey Andrew,
Great book! I especially loved they way you portrayed the character Fon. I am engaged to an Isaan girl from a small village out side of Khon Kaen, and she is very much like Fon in every way. The respect for her family, her pride, her sharp wit and humor, mood swings its all spot on. She is a strong woman, but still has a fragile femininity about her which I find very attractive. Without generalizing too much, this is something I find many western women today have lost in their pursuit of absolute equality.
My fiancé was lucky enough to get a good education. Even though her family is poor, they realized she had great potential, and after making some sacrifices were able to put her through international school in Bangkok. This I guess makes her a bit more accustomed to western culture, but I love the fact that she would never compromise her Thai values. As Fon in your book, there are still aspects of her life that she is very private about. After having lived in SE Asia for a while now, I am not blind to the difficulties of a cross cultural relationship, and I think you discuss some of these problems in your book very well. Excellent food for thought!
Thanks for a great read! Cheers, Matt
Andrew I read your book in one sitting, well actually squirming
would be more Your characters are so accurate it is obvious you have trod the path. Ben comes accross as a total prick and one almost wishes
that he finds Having lived, and loved, in Thailand I can emote with
all of the players I have been resident in Indonesia for ten years and am
very happily I have written several short articles about my life here,
posted them Good luck with the follow up. Java Geordie
Dear Java Geordie, Thanks for your very colourful message which I was delighted to receive, not just for your nice comments but also for learning that the book is available even in Surabaya and that it sustained you through such a gruelling journey. I'm glad you could emote with Ben even though he is 'a total prick'! Of course there are lots of these cruising Thailand, innocents abroad, and the not so innocent treading the primrose path... though don't be too tough on poor Ben. He's very young and maturer men suffer similarly when they fall in love with and in Thailand. You're obviously an old hand in Asia and I do hope you realise your plans to write. It's been a great experience for me, and well worth it even if the book had not been published. 'Thai Girl' is totally non-biographical, as I always tell people who ask, so now I'm writing a more personal view of my life in the far rice fields of Thailand. Likewise it's fun and publication is ultimately in the lap of the gods. Anyway keep writing and do stay in touch, and thanks again. Andrew
Hi Andrew, I have just finished reading your book, and I couldn't
put it down. I I stil dont understand why they took a disliking to me.
I found it very strange how they Best wishes ps sorry if my spellin is bad and if you cant understand
some of my
Hi Andrew, You may not remember having met me in Asia Books at the
Nana Square Ijust write to tell you how much I enjoyed your novel,
which If you recall, I was with my friend Noi when I met you.
We were off to When I read your novel, I found many uncanny parallels
between that All in all, your book proved "a rattling good yarn",
as my father used Good luck with book sales! All the best -
Dear Dave, It's great to hear from you and of course I remember
the photo opportunity I'm glad you enjoyed Khao Phra Viharn. I think it's one
of the great And of coure I'm really pleased that you enjoyed the
book. I was intrigued by your So do please tell your friends about "Thai Girl" and pass
it on to your friends I'm in Hampshire looking out at the rain for the rest of the 'summer' before heading back to Thailand. What are you up to? Andrew
Hi Mr Andrew,
Hello Andrew, I did catch up with Thai Girl and thought it was very well done. You explained in a clever way how so much about Thai society is both captivating and illusory. Unlike most of the other attempts at dealing with the cultural conflicts, it gives both sides and imparts some lasting understanding. It's a credit to you. I'll be recommending it to every ignorant bastard who thinks he knows it all when it comes to matters of the heart. And there are a lot of them! Cheers, Alan.
Mr. Hicks, Thank you for writing this book. It is easy to read because it is not boring. It is disturbing to read, at times, because of the heavy subject of Thailands sex industry. It spoke to me nonetheless, and that was the main reason I decided to read it. Although Ben can be considerate, he seems rather immature, and it turns some readers like me off that he is turned on so much. Your discussion on the interactions between Thais and Westerners is probably accurate, and your ability to understand Thai culture so well impressed me. The relatively low status of Thai women and children is one thing that bugs me about Thai culture, and thus I dont find Thai culture beautiful, although it has some good qualities. Much has been said about Thailands sex industry, and a large fraction thereof is said by Westerners who seem to have only superficial understanding of Thai society. It is nice to see a book that talks about the subject from a less biased perspective. Sorry I am reluctant to say unbiased; I believe that as human beings, we all have bias, although each individuals bias varies in magnitude. Having known someone in my childhood who was deceived and forced into prostitution, punters ignorance of the scale of damage their patronage has on the lives of countless innocent boys and girls often frustrates me. Some individuals choose to be in the industry, while some are forced into it. I knew the girl before she entered the trade. The guy who said he loved her suggested that they elope, and instead he took her to a brothel. She was fifteen. She could not make an escape until a year later. She cant bear to look people she used to know in the eye again. She was from Isaan. On a separate note, when asked by Westerners why some Thai women are reluctant to be with Westerners (and occasionally called a racist), I always have difficulty explaining. Perhaps the matter is not something you can explain adequately in a sentence or two, but a book can reasonably accommodate it. Thanks again. Sorry if you have difficulty making sense of my writing. Learning English is a continuous process. My nationality is Thai, but my view may not be representative of that of Thai people. Best wishes, Anonymous
Thanks so much for writing to me as I'm particularly pleased and interested when I hear from a Thai. I'm glad you liked the book and that it said something to you. Yes, on arriving in Bangkok, Ben is very immature and his unquestioning interest in the bar scene turns Emma off in a big way. But it's not long before he begins to think about things, and a part of the story is his journey through Thailand to a more mature undertanding of the hard realities of life here. Certainly your mention of the girl you knew from Isaan who was tricked into the sex industry is a disturbing case in point. I am always anxious that a Thai person picking up my book will think, 'Oh no, not another opinionated Westerner lecturing us about things he doesn't fully understand.' Yes, we all have a bias or viewpoint, but I'm relieved if you think that the discussions of the characters, who are trying to understand what is going on around them, raise important issues and find an interesting balance of views. I hope the book
is broadly sympathetic to all of humanity, both Thais and Westerners,
but if Westerners have something of a bad reputation among Thais, then
it's probably been So again, many thanks and do pass on the book to your friends. With my best wishes, Andrew
Hi Andrew, I have travelled
to Thailand many times over many years. Your wonderful David
Dear
Andrew, It's like the movie 'Good Morning Vietnam" where Chintara Sukaphat, who is a Thai actress, tells Robin Williams 'we not same, am so different"--talk about life imitating art! Will there possibly be a movie? Regards
, Dennis
S.
Is there anyone out there who knows how to find someone who'd take an
interest in the idea of promoting a movie?
Hi,
Andrew, Dear
Don, Jim Eckardt who
gave the book an otherwise favourable review in The Nation said exactly
the same thing as you did about this bit of the book. You
might have a look at "An Interview with the Author" on this
website where I was accused, lightheartedly I think, of being anti-American,
which I most certainly am not. If I was, I'd have put in some horrible
American characters, but Chuck, the only American, is shy, sensitive
and
thoughtful and perhaps the nicest guy in the whole book!
For many of the characters, there may be a gap between what they profess
and the actuality and with Ben and Fon trying desperately to understand
each other, this may be something that the reader finds intriguing. It's
all open to the reader's interpretation, including the ending.
Dear Andrew, Thank you for writing
such a thought provoking novel.Although I found the storyline a little
thin, I enjoyed it! Your development of the character of Fon Now the criticism. Your continual reference to Bar girls as "whores" and "sluts" I found particularly offensive and typical of conservative western thinking. Your inference that prostitutes are the same the world over and the lowest form of humanity shows a lack of understanding of the thai sex industry in general. May I ask have you
ever spent time in pattaya? I think not. A friend of mine who back-packed around thailand (having never visited Pattaya) refered to the city as "the place where big fat German men have sex with little boys". This generalisation
is typical of westerners with a tainted and preconceived view of For your benefit and the benefit of other forum contributors who have no experience of the city, here is the reality of life in Pattaya. Depending upon the time of year there can be as many as 20,000 girls working the bars in pattaya (to you that means 20,000 whores and sluts). The majority of them are there quite simply because they have children and families to support. The majority are charming, courteous, polite, hard-working and DECENT HUMAN BEINGS. The majority of the girls work in beer bars as opposed to short time bars and gogo bars. The vast majority of "relationships" between girls (whores and sluts) and Farang (sex tourists and drug takers) in Pattaya are long term encounters which involve companionship, friendship and dare I say the word - SEX. The Farang pay the girls for their TIME, irrespective of the fact the sex takes place or not. The overwhelming majority of Farang in Pattaya do not take drugs, do not seek sex with minors, are not sexually frustrated predators of thai girls, and in many cases are respected and wealthy individuals who above all respect and understand the bar girls. The beauty of Pattaya is its openness and honesty - a community where girls are free to carry out there business without prejudice from farang and thai alike. On my first visit to Thailand 5 years ago I met a 23yr old degree educated accountant named Rin (name changed to protect her identity). Originally from Udon, her family sent her to university in Bangkok. After completing her education, she remained in Bangkok to work. As a junior accountant Rin earned 8000 baht per month. Rin was a virgin when we met. After spending 5 days together I gave Rin 4000 baht partly because she had used 3 days of here precious annual leave to be with me and partly because 4000 baht meant far more to her than it did to me. Rin gladly accepted
the money and remained a virgin long after we parted. In your Perhaps when you write the sequel you will take Ben and Fon to Pattaya. I'm sure they will have a great time! Regards, Donald, England Dear
Donald, Thanks for letting me have your reactions to "Thai Girl". I always appreciate hearing from readers as it is fascinating for me to see the different ways in which people react to the book. What one thinks of a book is a very personal thing and for myself, I find that some highly recommended books satisfy me and some just don't.
Nonetheless, while not condemning the bar girls, the travellers do find the sight of a fat old farang hand in hand with a slim young Thai girl to be pretty disgusting. From my notes of many conversations over the years with those that I've met, that's exactly what they do generally think. So does that make me judgmental about the sex industry or am I merely reporting the typical attitude of western travellers?
Andrew Hicks.
Hi Andrew, I bought “Thai Girl” in Bangkok airport on 9 October 2005. I wasn’t looking for a book to read and I saw it, read the cover and put it back on the stand. I sat down for a while and I kept thinking… will it tell me what I want to know about Thai women. I bought it and it did more than that. This was my second time in Thailand. I was there for three weeks in June and have just spent another nine days there. You may ask why. I am forty nine, fit and happy with my life as a teacher, having raised my son since he was four years old. He has just finished his Masters degree. I have been to Bali many times and love it and people told me to try Thailand. A colleague in Darwin has a Thai wife and they have been together for twenty years. I wanted to see the real people of Thailand, so in July I traveled to her village in Khon Khaen which they were visiting for the first time in sixteen years. I had two nights in Bangkok first and didn’t much like it and couldn’t wait to get to the village. I stayed a week with them in the village and I was in heaven. We were the farangs of the village and I loved it even more because I was single. Believe me, it was like being a king. Anyway after a week being the centre of attraction, it was time to explore some more of Thailand. They took me to Khon Kaen bus station to catch a bus to Chiang Mai. They headed off and I had about two hours to kill so just sat at the terminal and waited. After about thirty minutes I started to talk to this very beautiful Thai lady who is twenty two and was going off to Pattaya. When it was time for the girl to get her bus, she gave me her mobile number and said to ring her when I get to Chiang Mai. I arrived in Chiang Mai the next morning after thinking of this goddess all night on the bus. Finally I rang her in the afternoon and she said, ‘There’s no work here, can I come to see you?’ You can guess my answer. The next day she rang my motel to let me know where she was. She finally made it and was still absolutely beautiful. First she had a shower and we went to eat and it all went on from there. I told her I wanted to see her village and she told me she was very poor and wasn’t too sure about this. But I convinced her and also found out she has a little three year old daughter. We went back to Khon Khaen, hired a car and went to her village. She was right… their house wasn’t much. The other village was a bit better off, but I was welcomed into the village and she talked about her life and how she wanted to build a house for her family. I looked at this and the next day I said I’ll build that house for you and your family, even if we don’t stay together… she and the village touched me so much. Things moved really fast over the next week and the village was all excited. When it was time to head back to Bangkok, she wanted me to go to Pattaya to meet a couple of her friends. I had never been there and wasn’t interested as I don’t drink, smoke or do drugs. But we finally got there and she was in her element. We went to one of the bars and I told her I didn’t want to go in, but she said she wanted me to meet a friend who worked there, so we did. Anyway the friend wasn’t there so she called her on her mobile and we had to pick her up at a club and go out for dinner. I had to pay the club to take her out which I wasn’t happy about but we had a good time and the dinner was great. But then my girlfriend went to another bar and as I wasn’t happy about it, she promised not to stay long. She knew some of the girls and they were great. She said she herself had worked in the bars a long time ago, but didn’t like it. We looked round Pattaya and I told her I didn’t like it at all and I’d rather be in the villages. We went back to Bangkok the next day. I have sort of fallen in love with her and she with me I think. Back in Darwin I sent her an msm three times a day for the next ten weeks and sent more money over for the house. The building started and I got photos of it from her and was happy the house was going well. I told her I’d be back in December, but I couldn’t wait and after ten weeks have just been back to Thailand for another nine days. It was great to see her again and we spent a couple of days in Bangkok before we went to the village. It was good to be back there and the top of the house was built and the workers were doing the bottom half. It really stood out and I was very proud to be doing something for the village as the money goes directly to all of them. I had to take some things to my colleague’s wife’s village and so off we went. We arrived there late in the afternoon and the family was happy to see us. Anyway, things suddenly changed and me and my girlfriend were fighting. We went back to her village for a few days, but back in Bangkok she didn’t stay with me and went to see her sister. The next night we argued and she left the next day. I spent one more night in Bangkok, very lonely and hating it. I rang a friend who was down the south of Thailand and told him what had happened. He said he was sorry but told me not to give up on all Thai women. Then I flew out and read your book all the way back to Darwin. So why am I writing this? Because all this has just happened to me and the book helped me to make sense of it. I’m not bitter about the house, even though it was 20,000 Australian. I was so glad to do it. And I may go back to Thailand at Christmas and see if the house is finished, then continue my journey through other parts of Thailand with a better knowledge of the country. I have to say that if I’d read the book first, I don’t think it would have made much difference! But reading it after the event has been a real education! Thanks, Andrew for a great book. Cheers, What a story! “Thai Girl”’s only fiction but yours is for real. So what can I say! Well, first of all, thanks for contacting me and for your warm comments about the book. When I read a travel novel, I want it to tell me something about the place and to make me think, so if my book has done this for you, I’m delighted. I was married to my English wife for nearly thirty years and when we lived in Hong Kong and Singapore we traveled a lot in Thailand. While I now have a Thai wife and am writing this from our home in Surin, I claim no special experience or insight into your troubles. But I share your love of the rhythm of life in the rice villages, though as a farang living there, the sense of being special soon fades and reality intervenes, which is probably a good thing. And I too love the rural Thais; they have something that people from our urban societies have lost, though one should not over-romanticize the harsh life they lead, trying to scrape a living from the soil. I don’t have to tell you that relationships are difficult where there are huge gaps in age, culture and wealth and when you have little opportunity to be together. Of course Thais do become involved in a relationship just as we do, and perhaps the most positive interpretation of your experience is that as you, the farang prepares to depart, she withdraws her attachment and distances herself from you to minimize the pain of parting. How can one make these generalizations, but I sense that Thais are more practical in their relationships than we are. Is the friendship viable in the long term, and will it provide the continuing practical support to continue to sustain life? If not, they won’t waste any more emotional energy on it but move on and get on with life. Though if the guy turns up again, then maybe they’ll go for it again. We in the West have this ancient courtly tradition of falling in love and pining for the lady from afar and it can be very damaging to be broken hearted for too long. While Asians can be as passionate and involved as anyone, they are more reluctant to suffer this pain and risk this damage, I suspect, and so more readily move on. If you haven’t ended up bitter about this, then all the more credit you. You have made a contribution to many people less well off than yourself. And I hope you can look back and remember this as one of life’s most intense experiences… and perhaps return for more! After all, if you choose a roller coaster, you cannot complain if it goes down as often as it goes up. But go up it certainly will! Do pass on the book and tell your friends it can be bought online from www.dcothai.com. And I’d love to hear from them too when they’ve read it, even if they have yet to meet their first Thai lady! All the best,
Dear Andrew, Dear Andrew, Hi Andrew, Anyway I hope you write another book. Dear Andrew Hicks, I've just read your book on a business trip to Phuket. Great reading and I Dear Andrew, Dear Andrew, One of the basic formulae for a good story is the journey – how the hero goes to a far country, makes his way through many obstacles, and returns with the Golden Fleece. Andrew Hicks has chosen this formula for the journey of young Englishman Ben on his first foray into the world, to Thailand. A series of deftly-sketched foils enables the author to bring out Ben’s character, to provide information about the setting, and to keep the plot moving. Most of these foils are like Ben, foreign tourists, drawn to Thailand by the scenery and the sex industry. A few are women, including Ben’s likeable girlfriend, Emma. Much more important is the far country – Thailand. Hicks has a good eye for the beautiful beaches, the traffic of Bangkok, the bars and the seedy hotels. But he is able to draw the reader beyond the picture postcards to the poor northeast of Thailand, where Ben travels to see the home of the Thai woman who, for a brief part of his life, draws him beyond the simplicity of lust. We feel the heat and see the fields and the rice and the village buildings. And we meet the people. The people we meet are centred around Fon, the masseuse who attracts Ben’s attention. They are her family and her friends. It is Fon who brings Ben out of the Bangkok and beach circuit to the reality of her north-eastern home. It is Fon who shares with Ben her experience of the life which she must lead. Surprisingly, the Thailand which Hicks shows us is peopled by women. There are almost no men, except in the background as taxi-drivers or restaurateurs or absent husbands. Although Thai men are loosely blamed for the society in which the sex industry flourishes, they are absent. And it is the mothers who sell their daughters to Bangkok. The obstacles which Ben encounters are not dragons or wizards, but his own immaturity, his own lust, and his inability to comprehend another society. Hicks has been a law teacher, and no doubt set moot problems for his students. Such a problem has to be finely balanced in the information which is given, to enable the students to argue both sides. Hicks doles out the information in attractive little doses, and leaves us pondering the balance: is Fon really a victim, or a predator, or both at once? Is Ben really capable of breaking through the limitations of his middle-class English hedonism? And what is Thai society, in reality? At the end of the book, the questions remain open for the reader. There is no Golden Fleece for Ben or for Fon, and maybe not for many of us on the journey through life. But there are good books, and I enjoyed reading this one. Roderick O’Brien Hello Andrew, I am a 60 year old Australian male. I have visited Thailand and its neighbours several times in recent years.
I read your book during my most
recent trip. I was on Ko Samet at the time! On my first reading, I
must be honest and say that I thought it was a bit "light".
Good for a holiday browse but not much more. However, I am now back in Oz and have just completed the read yet again. And this time it made me think - this time I heard the messages. This time I identified the characters because I have surely met all of them many times during my travels.
I too am an author (children's books) and publisher. Many friends have urged me to write something based on my journeys through SE Asia.
Your penmanship may just have motivated me in that direction. Thankyou and good luck to you.
Sincerely
David Ridyard
Dear David, Many thanks for your message which I found intriguing. Yes, I think the book can be read at different levels, as an easy poolside read and also as carrying some important messages about the impact of travellers on Thai people of all sorts, and especially the young women. Some visitors to Thailand skim over the surface because that's what they want from a holiday, and the same could be said of readers of the book. Different people see different things in it, but I do hope it can be thought-provoking about Thailand. I think that's what a travel novel should be. Good luck with your writing and publishing. Incidentaly I have just signed a contract with Monsoon Books in Singapore and it's possible if they are successful in promoting "Thai Girl" that it will later appear on the shelves in Australia. Thanks again and best wishes, Andrew. Hi I bought this book at Phuket Airport on my way back home and finished reading it in about 30 hours, even though I spent some 24 hours of that in planes and airports where I normally lack concentration to focus on reading. Definitely a nice book, I could easily relate to Ben having experienced something similar during my previous trips to Thailand. Thanks Tero Pikala Dear Andrew You can't judge a book by its cover and nothing truer could be said of "Thai Girl". Several of my friends gave me funny looks while I was reading this book as they made certain assumptions about its content. If only they knew what it was really about. I have made many visits to Thailand over the past nine years. During that time I have learnt a lot about the country. I have been fortunate through my relationships with certain Thai people to see and learn many things about the country. There are so many wonderful things about Thailand and the kindness and generosity of the Thai people is extraordinary. However, I like to think of the fact that there is the land of smiles and the land of not-smiles. Unfortunately most foreign visitors only see the land of smiles and remain happily ignorant of the land of not-smiles. I really like the sensitive way you have captured the two worlds in your book. I think your writing about the experience of a foreign traveller and a young Thai woman are realistic and accurate. Thank you for writing this book. I will definitely recommend it to anyone who wants to know more about Thailand. best regards David Reid Dear David, I was really pleased to receive your message and your comments about "Thai Girl". Perhaps the cover induces some of the more thoughtless tourists into reading the book and perhaps having some of the tough reality of being a poor migrant worker pointed out to them. So many visitors treat Thailand as an adventure playground and the women as a free for all and I hope the book makes them stop and think. I like your way of putting the converse to the land of smiles. It is so easy to be seduced by it on holiday and to skate over the surface. Thanks for you kind comments. I appreciate them enormously. I am so glad you enjoyed the book. And do pass on the word to your friends and perhaps get them to write to me as well. I am in Isaan at present where I am living and it's getting hotter! Where are you? Still in Thailand or back to Northern climates? With thanks and best wishes, Andrew.
Andrew,
I have read your
book "Thai Girl" and enjoyed it very much. I went to People all around
the world have this image of Thailand as nothing but I can see families
sending their daughters off to Bangkok to work in Again I enjoyed
your book and actually learned a few thing from it. I Regards,
Well I finally
finished your book after numerous delays. So when
Dear Andrew, I'm writing this
note to you for two seperate reasons: firstly, I have a However, first of
all, I would like to congratulate you on an excellent Let me start with
the simpler of my two reasons for writing. For several So, my question
is: do you, or your readers, know of any charities or Concerning my second
reason for writing: on a recent business trip to I am 38 years old,
divorced with no children, live and work in Europe, I look forward to any replies, and congratulate you again on your book! Kind regards, Dear Khun Andrew, I probably the first
Thai who write to you as I have not seen any I would say I enjoyed
reading the Thai Girl so much, and thanks for easy The story and the
people are very realistic, and it was your intentions I guess you intended
to make the book both informative and emotional. At There were some
informations about Thai women that are not quite right. You are right about
the Thais' preference of white skin, but not because Thank you for the
good story and intelligent plots. It is interesting to I hope many more
Thais read your book, and perhaps someone want to Best wishes, I was so pleased to receive your message. Yes, you are the first Thai to write in though several Thais have spoken to me and told me they enjoyed the book. I hope many more will write to me as you have. I am delighted that you too enjoyed the book, that you found it funny and true to life. Yes, I have spent a lot of time in Thailand, mainly family holidays when my children were younger. That is when I came to love Thailand and its people and culture, and it is now like a second home for me. Yes, Fon seems traditional but is rather seductive at the same time. Perhaps she is confused about what to do, and Ben is very unsure how to read her signals. Is she telling him the whole truth and what does she really want from him? But is this so unusual? I'm sure you can think of friends who are a bit like that, who are fun and playful with men, flirtatious even but who mean very little by it and really intend to keep themselves for a long term partner. I found your comments about white skin and marriage customs particularly interesting and must make a few chamges to the book for a future edition. Yes, the Thai people are among the best looking in the world and it is sad if people want to be white or have cosmetic surgery for their nose or eyelids, just so they can imitate another race. That is the power of the media and marketing! As to marriage, it is I believe the Chinese custom for the girl to move to the husband's family home and for that her family is compensated with a bride payment. As you say, for Thais it is more varied, though a sinsot payment is usually made. I think though as somebody says in the book, a farmer's daughter probably fears the situation where she has to move in with her new husband's family and her mother-in-law turns out to be a nightmare. By being independent and going away to Bangkok or Pattaya she can avoid all that. Well,thank you again, Pimpimon. It is very important to me to have a Thai readership and I hope you will pass on the book to your friends. And even I hope persuade some of them to write to me! With best wishes,
Hello Mr. Hicks, I have not read other people's letters so sorry if my comments are similar to other readers. Your understanding of the Thai society seems to be OK, but I don't agree with you regarding Fon's interaction with Ben. You also deliberately confuse us by not elucidating crucial details such as "is Joy Fon's daughter?", or "who is the mysterious boyfriend?". Fon is 24 years old, an age when most rural women are long married and have already born children. She is not averse to men, she flirts with Ben, yet she doesn't consummate the relationship. By doing (or rather not doing) this she appears more as a "teaser" than a chaste woman. Other reasons for not "going all the way" do not correspond to her age: being younger, and therefore being (or trying to appear as) a virgin, or being older and having been burned by a former lover/husband. I also believe that country folks have less hangups in privacy than you're trying to portray "Fon". A good example (in this case between two Thai country people) is the courtship between the hero and the heroine in the Thai movie "Monrak Transistor". She resists his flirt, but when he buys her a transistor radio, and is about to be conscripted, she relents. Fon's other alternatives are a Thai husband - she has told us that she doesn't trust them -, or to remain a spinster - which would be worse in Thai rural society than the "qu'en dira-t-on" of her relationship with a farang. If she is devoted to her niece (or daughter) Joy, and her mother, common sense would dictate that she considers marrying Ben, combining love and a financial security for her relatives. Her overly concern
about what other people think about her being seen Thai country people have suffered too much hardship and humiliation, and being seen with a farang is sometimes a source of pride, especially with a decent character like Ben, who is also the same age as Fon. On the other side the discussion on Bush between the backpackers seems very real, and reaffirms my belief about what the majority of the world thinks about America. I still believe that the best description of a Thai girl is that of "Vilai", the "Number One Girl" in the book "A Woman of Bangkok", (originally titled "A Sort of Beauty"), written in the fifties by Jack Reynolds. Incidentally, following the publication of the book, and despite writing under a pseudonym, the late Jack Reynolds (whose real name was Jack Jones), was disinherited by his Scottish missionary family. Thank you for nice
reading,
Never again did I feel
so sad that a book has actually come to an end. In In addition, I
believe that the author has achieved this by providing a
Thank you for this
entertaining, interesting book! There were some
useful thoughts about cultural differences that are commonly experienced
here - the thai/falang miscommunication about the meaning of money, the
falang frustration with thai communal life and commitment to family (rather
that pursuing individual dreams and I want to briefly
mention the relationship between Fon and Joy. I have no doubt there are
differences in the way illegitimate children are seen in different classes
of Thai society, but in my experience over the last year and a half, unmarried
Thai women with children are quite Thanks again for
a lively read!
I really liked your
novel, great story! I read it while I was travelling in Thailand The characters are
well chosen. Each one of them is easy to understand, being who Anyway I am still
thinking about the story and I was a bit sad by the way it ended. I have a deep sympathy
for Fon. For me Fon is not only a character in the book, she Best regards,
Dear Terry, Thanks so much for your long and thoughtful comment about Thai Girl which I found interesting and thought-provoking. It all comes down to the words on the book's cover. Was Fon seductive, scheming and available, or was she modest, sweet and innocent... was it she who was the victim? Your conclusions on this are clear, that Ben thoughlessly did significant damage to her. I'm sure many readers would agree with you. But are you nonetheless a bit hard on Ben? In effect you say he was a shit who was only in Thailand to screw around. Perhaps he was just a typical immature lad out to have a good time. But one could say in his defence that he had stayed loyal to Emma, his first girlfriend for three years throughout university and that he was shocked at the split up. And rather than become a sex tourist he then single-mindedly pursued Fon even though he wasn't getting his way with her. If along the way a tasty Australian threw herself at him, then what a lucky guy he was! Are you a bit tough on Emma too? You think her selfish and domineering, a 'man with tits' out for sexual adventures. Or was she perhaps weak and confused about her failing relationship with Ben and desparately uncertain about her future life? We don't really know what sexual contacts she had while she was on her own because she didn't tell Ben on the plane. All we know is that in terms of travelling alone and her self-confidence she did pretty well without him. I don't dislike her for that. But I'm intrigued by your comments and what's interesting for me is how differently readers interpret the character and behaviour of these two individuals. Often the males back Ben and the women back Emma! You're a bit tough on some of the peripheral characters too. Are they really the lowest common denominator of druggie trash that I agree are all too common in Thailand? How about Darren? Yes, well... maybe! Immature, out for a good time, he is a reflection of current bored English lads perhaps. But Maca and Chuck surely have redeeming features, despite a liking for a spliff every so often. Maca is thoughtful and well-informed about Thailand and Africa. He is a serious traveller, while Chuck is gentle and sensitive and has a perceptive view of his own country as he takes time off and reorientates his life. None of them seem to have allowed themselves to become sex-tourists, Stewart admitting the need for self-restraint. I've seen many worse parasites in Thailand. And characters like Clarissa and Dutch act as foils for their younger friends and are solid enough. Yes, some of the characters do take a dim view of older travellers, scenting a sex tourist if a man is over forty. Jack Russell is the only well-developed character in this category but is he unsympathetic too? Some readers say they like him for his directness and honesty about why he is in Thailand. But you're right, the book does not look at the many normal and successful relationships that do exist across the cultures. The one reference is Ben's view that the sheer scale of sex-tourism makes all such relationships more difficult to carry on publicly. Every young Thai woman with a farang must be perceived to be a bar girl. As you say commercial sex catering to tourists in Thailand is the tip of the iceberg... this becomes apparent to Ben when he discovers sex for sale both at the karaoke bar and the sing-a-song club in the small town in Buriram. Certainly Emma has a 'shock, horror' response to sex for sale in Bangkok which may be hypocritical or a consequence of European repression. When Ben and Emma meet on the plane to fly home, their conclusion is that what is most offensive is the apparent connivance of governments at the flaunting of sex tourism to earn tourist dollars, a practice that has done immeasurable harm to the reputation of Thai womanhood throughout the world. So again it all comes down to the nature of the eponymous 'Thai girl'. Is she virgin or whore? Is she typically seductive, scheming and available or is it she who is the victim? As regards Fon, I find your conclusions interesting and am gratified that you have so consciously grasped the key issues that the book is all about. A lot of people read the book as an enjoyable story, which is fine by me, but you have looked deeper. I am also gratified that you like the idea of a sequel, though would a happy ending be realistic? Perhaps that would detract from these primary issues that you talk about that run throughout the book. Andrew Hicks I sympathised most strongly with Fon, whom I saw more as a victim rather For me, Emma could have been any one of any number of European women seen on I enjoyed the settings - you've obviously been to the places mentioned in One fact about commercial sex in Thailand that did not emerge, is that the I would like to know if you planning a sequel, as I would love to know what Regards
Tamsyn
Eric.
Thanks for getting back to me. Yeah, I really liked Thai Girl, you really captured how Thais act and think, If you get the chance, try to get a copy of a DVD of the film Butterfly Best wishes, PS Great website, by the way!
Many congratulations. You must be really proud. With very best wishes,
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